Using 5 cymbals on Roland TD-11

The Roland TD-11K entry-level kit ships with 2 cymbals, but – as I’ve shown in a previous article – it can easily be extended with a third cymbal. However, there are some gems in the TD-11 that allows it to add a fourth and fifth cymbal.

CY-13RIn an earlier post, I’ve shown how to configure an input to provide two completely unrelated sounds when the surface or edge is struck. This feature can be exploited to add more sounds to the kit, by sacrificing the dynamics. To be fair, this article is about adding more sounds, rather than adding more cymbal pads.

By disabling the LINK feature for the left crash cymbal, it is easy to add a second – unrelated – sound to the edge trigger of that cymbal, similarly to how I described adding a cowbell on the bow of the right crash cymbal.

I chose to select two fairly similar sounds, the 16" Paper Cr sound on the bow of the cymbal, and 10" Med 1 Splash on the edge. The reason for choosing two fairly similar sounds was that I found it hard to position and angle the cymbal in a way that minimized the risk of triggering the wrong sound.

With this setup, it doesn’t matter if I accidentally trigger the wrong sound. By striking the cymbal on the two different zones, I can still produce two sounds that still are noticeable different.

So far, so good. So what about the fifth cymbal? You’ve probably guessed it – use the Ride cymbal input!

As I’ve mentioned, the TD-11 module allows both bow, edge and bell sounds, using a three-zone cymbal such as the CY-13R. By disabling the LINK and reconfiguring the edge of the ride cymbal, it is possible to make it sound as a different cymbal.

I’ve managed to find a position and angle of the cymbal that makes it hard to strike the wrong zone, so I’ve chosen to use the Piggy Cr sound for the edge, which is very distinct and different than any other sound in my configuration.

I decided to use the 20" Custom Rd on the bow, and its corresponding 20" Custom RdB on the bell. But you might as well want to use the Cowbell on the ride’s bow instead of the right crash’s bow – or something completely different!

To conclude: My TD-11K has now been expanded to support playing

  • Hi-hat
  • Snare drum
  • High Tom
  • Middle Tom
  • Low Tom
  • Ride
  • Piggy Crash
  • Paper Crash
  • Fast Crash
  • Splash
  • Cowbell
  • Kick drum

And most of this work is done by simply reconfiguring the kit! Quite impressive for a €1.200 kit, don’t you think? And this technique can even be applied to its bigger brothers, the TD-11KV, TD-15K/KV and TD-30K/KV kits, too!

So far, there is a few steps to take before the kit is as large as Neil Peart‘s, but I have some ideas that’s worth trying out in a future article.

But until then, go on, experiment until you find a combination that fits your playing style!

(And for your simplicity, the entire kit configuration is available here)

If you find it difficult to play the cymbals this way, or want ever more cymbal sounds, it is actually possible to connect two pads to one input! By connecting two tom pads to the same input, this leaves one tom input unused. Thus, another cymbal can be added to that input. However, it is needed to create a drum splitter cable.

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4 Comments

  1. PCM

    Thank you for the interesting articles!

    Q: I recently bought a VH-11 HH so now I have an unused CY-5 HH cymbal available; I was wondering if there is a way to split off the CY-15R’s BELL signal so that it can be triggered by a CY-5 HH cymbal?

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    1. Fredrik Lundström (Post author)

      I think I have tried that, but I think I didn’t get that to work. I guess the BELL trigger is connected to the other triggers of the CY-15R, making such connection impossible. However, your unused CY-5HH should be connectable to the CRASH 2 input.

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      1. PCM

        As a follow up I called and talked to the Roland drum tech here in California. He said that the CY-13R’s bell output isn’t configured like the other outputs which jives w/ your analysis: you can’t use the bell input as a separate trigger. Thanks for your response and best wishes!

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        1. Fredrik Lundström (Post author)

          Thanks!

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